Chambers Family Heritage


James LEMON [Parents] was born 1 on 2 Jun 1794 in Pendleton County, South Carolina. He died 2 . He married 3 Mary Brown TELFORD about 1818 in Pendleton, South Carolina.

Mary Brown TELFORD [Parents] was born 1 about 1798 in Pendleton County, South Carolina. She died . She married 2 James LEMON about 1818 in Pendleton, South Carolina.

They had the following children:

  F i James and Mary LEMON Daughter One was born 1 about 1819 in Pendleton County, South Carolina. She died 2 before 1830.
  M ii Smith LEMON was born 1 on 4 Apr 1821 in Pendleton County, South Carolina. He died .
  M iii George L. LEMON was born 1 on 11 Mar 1824 in Decatur, Dekalb County, Georgia. He died .
  F iv James and Mary LEMON Daughter Two was born 1 about 1827 in Decatur, Dekalb County, Georgia. She died .
  F v Sarah Ann LEMON
  M vi James Lytle LEMON was born 1 on 27 Oct 1835 in Decatur, Dekalb County, Georgia. He died .
  F vii Mary Jane LEMON was born 1 on 8 Mar 1838 in Decatur, Dekalb County, Georgia. She died .

Robert GROVES [Parents] was born 1, 2 on 28 Nov 1783 in Madison County, Georgia. He died 3, 4 on 21 Mar 1842. He married Sarah FERGUS.

Excerpt from a history of Cobb County, Georgia, entitled "The First Hundred Years", under a chapter named "Pioneer Families":

The Groves family came from Pennsylvania to Georgia and Robert Groves moved from near Danielsville, Madison County, to Cobb not long after the organization of the county. He settled on what is now the Old Paper Mill Road between Soaps Creek and the present Sardis Cemetery.

His wife was Sarah Fergus and they had four sons, two of whom moved to Texas, one of the latter, Edward, marrying Sarah, daughter of James and Mary Telford Lemon of Acworth. Two sons remained in the county: Dr. John Thomas Groves and William F. Groves.

Sarah FERGUS [Parents] was born 1, 2 about 1787 in Madison County, Georgia. She died on 26 Jul 1857. She married Robert GROVES.

They had the following children:

  M i James W. GROVES was born 1 about 1823 in Georgia. He died .

James W. Groves remained in Cobb County, Georgia, along with his brother, Dr. John Thomas Groves, while his other two brothers, Edward Stephen and William F. Groves, moved their families to Fannin County, Texas.
  M ii Dr. John Thomas GROVES was born 1 about 1824 in Georgia. He died .

Dr. John Thomas Groves remained in Cobb County, Georgia, along with his brother, James W. Groves, while his other two brothers, Edward Stephen and William F. Groves, moved their families to Fannin County, Texas.
  M iii Edward Stephen GROVES
  M iv William F. GROVES

Stephen GROVES [Parents] was born 1, 2 in 1740 in Lancashire, England. He died 3, 4 in 1839 in Madison County, Georgia. He married 5, 6 Isabella WEAKLEY in 1771 in Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania.

Stephen Groves' birthplace is shown as West Pennsborough, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania in some records. It is more likely he was born in England and his birthplace may have been altered because among colonists at the time, the mother country was unpopular. The birth year is represented from the Gregrorian Calendar rather than the Julian Calendar, which would have been in use at the time.

In the 1760's, Stephen Groves visited Ireland and Scotland, then sailed from Belfast, Northern Ireland, to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He settled initially near Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. In 1771, he moved his new wife and family to Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, 14 miles from Pittsburgh and remained there until the summer of 1777. Persistent Indian attacks ancillary to the American Revolutionary War prompted him to move back to the relative safety of Pittsburgh. In the fall of 1787, he looked in to a move to Georgia, but upon arriving at Savannah, decided instead to wait out a season across the river in the Abbeville District of South Carolina due to "Indian troubles". He moved to New Hope, Georgia, in 1788, where he lived until his death at the ripe old age of 99.

Stephen Groves took up arms as an American Revolutionary War soldier (with the rank of private) for eight months. The application below was presented for his pension, which was paid: a grand total of $26.66 a year.

Pension hearing document transcript from 1833:

State of Georgia
County of Madison

On the twenty second day of November in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and thirty three personally appeared before me, James Long, one of the Justices of the Inferior Court and Court of Ordinary, Stephen Groves, a resident of Capt Morgan's Company, district of Georgia Militia in the County of Madison and State of Georgia, aged Ninety-two years, who being first duly Sworn according to Law - doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th, 1832 that he entered the Service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein Stated to wit,

he entered as a Volunteer in March 1778 and served as a private under the Command of Capt Jeremiah Loughela and was stationed at and guarded a Fort by the Name of Pemberleys on Cannemough (Conemaugh), being the waters of the Allegany River, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, in which County he there resided, and Confined in Said Company guarding Said Fort until in November following, making a term of Service of eight Months - while guarding the Fort as aforesaid, two men went from the Fort to their plantation to collect their Stock, but not returning in a reasonable time, a part of the Troops were ordered out for the purpose of making what discovery they could - these troops in addition to Capt Loughela were commanded by Col. Archey Loughela and Maj. James Smith, this deponent being one of the number. We came to a plantation (where we intended to camp for the night). We were fired on by the Indians. One of our Number was killed - another had the handle of his knife in his Shot pouch shot away. We fired on them when they were in the act of Crossing the fence. They fled. We found five of their guns and four blankets - at the house of One of the Men who were missing we found in a Chest a letter from each of the men who were missing Stating they were prisoners and well treated, requesting their families to remove to the Old Settlements and holding out encouragements to those who would join the British - in particular to Officers that they should hold the Same command they had at that time - he had no marches but Such as the foregoing expedition for the protection of the Frontier. He knew Genl lrwin and Col Piper, in addition to those already named. He has no discharge and has no Documentary evidence, and he knows of no evidence which he can procure, who can testify to his Services - and he would further State that his Services were with an embodied Corps (as he has herein before Stated) called into Service by competent authority and that his Services were principally Confined to the Fort as before Stated, and for the time during which the aforesaid Service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit and that he claims a pension for the eight Months aforesaid.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of any State.
In answer to the Interrogatory presented by the war department and propounded by James Long, one of the Justices of the Inferior Court, he answereth as follows to wit,

Ans to 1st Inter. he has lost the record of his age.

Ans to 2nd lnter. he was living in Westmoreland County Pennsylvania when he entered the service - Immediately after being discharged from the Fort he removed to Cumberland County Pennsylvania. Shortly after the treaty of peace he removed to Abbeville District South Carolina, therein to that part of Wilkes County, Georgia, which is now Included in the County of Madison where he now resides.

Ans to 4th Inter. he Volunteered.

Ans to 5th Inter. he has stated the principal field Officers with whom he became acquainted in his declaration, except that of Genl Arthur St. Clair, with whom he was well accquainted.

Ans to 6th Inter. he never received a discharge.

Ans to 7th Inter. he refers you to James Thompson - Robert Griffeth - William Hodge - Robert L. Tait - Col Gabriel Nash, Col Edward Ware and William Meroney Esq.

Sworn and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid before me.
S/ STEPHEN GROVES

S/ James Long, JIC

Georgia
Madison County We, Benjamin Brown, a Clergyman residing in the County of Madison, State of Georgia, and William Meroney, residing in the Same, hereby Certify that we are well acquainted with Stephen Groves who has Subscribed and Sworn to the above declaration before James Long one of the Justices of the Inferior Court of Said County that we believe him to be Ninetey two years of age and very Infirm - that he is respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the revolution and that we Concur in that Opinion.

Sworn and Subscribed before me this 28th day of November 1833
S/ BENJ BROWN
S/ WILLIAM MERONEY

S/ James Long, JIC

Georgia
Madison County I James Long, one of the Justices of the Inferior Court and Court of Ordinary, do hereby declare my Opinion after the Investigation of the Matter and after putting the Interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary Soldier and Served as he States and I do hereby further Certify that the applicant Stephen Groves, from old age and Debility and bodily Infirmity has been for a Considerable time past unable to attend the Sittings of the Inferior Court or Court Of Ordinary and in Consequence of Such bodily Infirmity I attended upon him where he was then residing and he then made the foregoing declaration - and I do further certify that it appears to me that Benjamin Brown who has signed the preceeding certificate is a Clergyman resident in the County of Madison and that William Meroney, who has also Signed the Same, is a resident in the County of Madison and is a credible person and that their Statement is entitled to credit and that I concur in that Opinion being personally acquainted with him for upwards of Forty years-last past, November 28th 1833.

S/ JAMES LONG, JIC

Georgia
Madison County I William Landers, Clerk of the Court of Ordinary, do hereby Certify that James Long, whose Name appears to the foregoing declaration and Certificate, is and was at the time of his Signing the Sarme one of the Acting Justices of the Inferior Court and Court of Ordinary in and for Said County and that he is a Credible person and that the foregoing Contains the Original proceedings of Stephen Groves, the applicant in the foregoing case, for a pension as taken and Sworn to before the Said James Long - and that from my own knowledge of the Applicant, I concur in the foregoing and Consider him as a Soldier of the Revolution - in testimony whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and Seal of Ordinary's Office this fourth day Of December Eighteen hundred and thirty three-

S/ WILLIAM LANDERS, Clk
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The following letter was found among the papers of Mrs. W. T. Kendrick, evidently a great-granddaughter of Stephen Groves. Her father is referred to in the letter as either William Samuel or Samuel William, but there is only a Samuel F. Groves who would fit the bill namewise as her father. No record can be found in Georgia of a W.T. Kendrick in order to track down the first name of the man's wife, who would be a Groves, and thus possibly figure out to whom the letter was sent. Here is the text of the 1906 correspondence from William H. Groves of Ontario, Canada:

Burnhamthorpe, Ontario, Canada
Nov 25th '06

Mrs. W. T. Kendrick
71 Washington St.
Atlanta, Georgia

My Dear Madam,

Perhaps I had better begin with yourself and the account you give of your fathers. From there I think I can safely state
offhand that there is strong probability if not a certainty of your kinship though of course what degree of relationship there might be is a matter that would involve much research. I base this conclusion on much fragmentary knowledge I have of the family coupled with bits of your evidence. To begin with your father had two of the three Groves names, viz, Samuel and William, these with Robert are traditional in the faimily for ages and appear to be accepted by each succeeding generation for better or for worse! I do not know of a Groves family in Eng. without a Wm, and I recall my first or an
early family dinner there at which just by chance every man present was a Wm, save one, and he was a Thomas W,.

Your Great Grandfather Stephen Groves and wife (?) was living in the Old Colony before the war of separation, and evidently was among the first to come this way. I would convict him of being one of the original Groves on the strength of his beef deal with Genl Washington--though for the sake of the family good name I trust that was not the origin of the Beef-trust in the US. That is just what they do to this day in England have often done there during the past several hundred years. He came from Lancashire-and here the task confronts you of proving a connection with the Shropshire family which is the origin of all. The Groves are still in Lancashire and adjoining Cheshire-the present member of the Imperial House of Commons, Wm. J. G. Groves, for Salford is one of the bunch-he is a big brewer-as are many of the family at one time & another. The point here is how this bunch got to Lancashire & Cheshire, and when-whether they migrated direct from Shropshire, or came there by the round about way from the South of England. I think the latter is likely-though I do not know - nor does it matter much save as regards the closeness to the parent tree.

This brings me to the origin of the family-which is a vastly lengthy subject-and upon which I speak from memory only
on informations supplied me largely by Dr. Joseph Groves of Eng., who has made an exhaustive study of it - & is an authority upon geneology & heraldry in general. Dr. Groves is chairman of the United Boards of Health of Eng-a noted authority there on Public health and Sanitation-and as Chairman of the State Medicine Section of the British Medical Assn recently meeting in Toronto and was amased to find me one or (rather my father was) of the original parent family in Shropshire-he coining direct here from there in l857. Dr Groves as the result of much enthusiasm & great labor has traced the family back to 1070, or thereabouts, at which time the first migrations from Shropshires to any other part of Eng is recorded.

At that time one John de Grove-the original family name is really Groves-much prior to that there were no family names-simply sir-names, John, William, etc, but on adoption of the family names our tribe became known as Groves, or de Groves---John de Grove, Wm ditto, etc, ie, John (of the )Grove-where they evidently lived. Well, this member of the family, as of this time, 1070, made the first move known on record from the place of origin in Shropshire to other parts of Eng. He went from there south into Dorsetshire & thus founded the great South family of Groves which has since spread over Dorset, Somerset, Devon, and other Shires of the South-Isle of Wight, and according to Dr. Groves veered round to the north again to Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, etc, which will include your family or forefathers-though of course it is quite possible some may have gone directly north at some time.

The result is that today they have over run a great part of Eng-and numerically are an enormous family-but all are said to have the one common origin-Shropshire.

Back beyond 1070 the family from its origin had been in Shropshjre-how far back I cannot say, but Dr. Groves says the name itself & other evidences he found pointed to its purely local origin there, possibly extending back some hundreds of years further yet-but in any event of pure Saxon or earlier English origin as distinct from the Norman (later) or Roman (earlier) origin.

This gives an unbroken record from John de Grove to the present of practically 800 years, with, Dr. Groves thinks a probable if not easily proved, family organization extending back some hundreds of years further. In fact it is doubtful if many families in Britain can produce such a record-few families surviving so long or being so prolific of numbers or individuals capable of maintaining a social statue to merit record.

Now during all these centuries whaat do records show of the family to be? Prior to 1070 evidently of much standing even in that primitive semi-organized age else they would not have had definite family standing, nor been free to migrate as occurred. Since then they have gone on & multiplied, even beyond the scriptural injunction I would almost venture, and as would most naturally be inferred have in that long period experienced what all persons, families and nations do-the most varied fortune. But Dr. Groves says at no time ever falling to the ranks of the peasantry, with so large a family naturally all walks of life would be invaded-and so have-but the family (in its large sense) is essentially of the land agricultural and until my father came to Canada and adopted city life no one of our (my) immediate ancestry was ever known off the land-and in that connection they have always been great cattle & sheep breeders-and so to this day in Shropshire-and very strangely Dr. Groves tells me they have in various ages the various great wars had the supplying of beef etc to the Army; as your ancestor did with Washington in obedience to the great family instinct.

Records show the family at times large land owners and country gentry-then again in various lines of business as fortune veered off from them, only again to amass again the means to enable them to gratify the instinct of aristocracy, and again the land claimed them; at times tenantry, at times large owners, large brewers and breeders and handlers of enormous herds, coming down the ages and the professions claimed many of them-through earlier on only the exclusive social professions of Army, Navy & Civil Service.

Many during the periods of wealth & social prominence put the sons into these latter-the exclusive aristocratic goal of centuries of family ambition, and very strangely these latter nearly always adopted the original family name of Grove (the decendant of and after John de Grove adopting the 's', Groves signifying 'son of' Grove, i.e. a son of or decendant of the Grove family).

While I & my family & all our kin in Shropshire call ourselves Groves, Dr. Groves says we should not as we are by right of direct descent from the parent stock who never left Shropshire entitled to, in fact are, Grove.

The family have at various times rendered service to the Crown, in war & peace, whereby several titles have at times crept in. There are at prevent several Baronets & not a few Knights scattered throughout the huge connection. That any male member of the family ever reached the ranks of the nobility, Dr. Groves does not think-though one of the females married an Earl-but of course would lose her identity in that family.

The question of family crest of course reveals much respecting a family's past & from that of the Groves evidence is adduced that the same portion of the family at one time was ennobled or rendered signal service to the Crown as the presence of a Coronet on the crest indicates. Of course this is a very complicated affair in control of the Heraldry Dept of the nation & granted only for service & in view of standing. It also reveals service in the Army etc, at the time of the Crusades. To Americans this will be mist and dreamland, but in Britain it is the only & great refining past socially. None of my people at present use the crest-though Dr. Groves does & all the gorgeous trappings of the early centuries-but very many of the older families in England have dropped all this and go about as untitled nobility. This is especially so among those of Saxon origin . . . those who make up the most magnificent and perfect democracy in the world the only aristocratic democracy in existence. They at present constitute the great untitled upper & middle classes of Eng. The present titled aristocracy are mostly of German origin, ie, do not go back in Eng history beyond Wm of Normandy & the conquest of the 11th Century.

The present status of the family is various; Some rich, some poor -- but none low.

The altered conditions of agriculture & life in general during the past century has brought about great changes and many have deserted the land for the cities-trades & professions, etc. My immediate people there are in both. The present head of the family in Shrops., Mr. Wm Groves, 1st Cousin to my father is a large land owner, 1000 acres in addition farming nearly another thousand besides conducting a large cattle shipping business of 8000-10000 head a year. On the whole the general condition of the family there is not now as prosperous nor as commanding as a hundred years ago, when and up till the middle of the last century they controlled several thousands of acres of Shrop, but they weather it out and the next century wave will see them again on the crest. They smoulder, but never die out.

An outstanding characteristic of the family which Dr. G. says he has found throughout all his researches was, or is, a supreme independence, difficult to explain and apparently not based on any one thing, but always cropping up. This is admitted by most of them to whom I have spoken but none attempt to explain it. I fancy it is the strongest proof of the pure Saxon-and is quietly & unconsciously taught in our families. A favorite expression with my father was, "No, I shall go to the stake first!" something very akin to pigheadedness I tell them.

My father was the only one who ever came out here-other than remote cousins scattered in various parts of Can & US. He died during my absence in Eng 6 years ago. There are many of the name in Canada, in all walks of life though they seem to drift to medicine, no less than six in Ontario alone being engaged.

I trust you will pardon me if I have wearied or disappointed you in this. 'Tis the best I can do offhand with such a subject-I may favor you later with stray bits which doubtless will float in my memory.

Believe me

Yours very truly,
S/ Wm H. Groves

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Found on the Web (author uncertain):
I had located and studied (and got my own copy) HISTORICAL SKETCHES-Presbyterian Churches in North East Georgia by Groves Harrison Cartledge about 1960, Historical Foundation Presbyterian Church, Montreat, N.C. It is “taken from weekly sketches in a N.E. Georgia Paper by Stephen Groves”, whose name can be found in the tax records of West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland Co., PA in 1785 before he came to Georgia. Stephen Groves married Isabella Weakley whose father's will can be found in Cumberland Co., PA. He was James Weakley and her brother, James Weakley, Jr. was a “trusted friend” to Alexander McBride an ancestor of Reid and Robert H. Ewing. On page 20 of the book we read:
“In the Autumn of 1787 a colonyof Scotch-Irish Presbyterian started from the neighborhood ofCarlisle, PA to seek newhomes in the wilds of Upper Georgia but ... (because of) reports of Indian outrages ... most of the Pennsylvania emigrants stopped a year in Abbeville Co., S.C., made a crop there in 1788, and in the fall continued to Georgia. Among these were families of Leeper, McElhannan, Woods et al.”

Isabella WEAKLEY [Parents] was born 1, 2 in 1748/1749 in West Pennsborough, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. She died 3 in New Hope, Georgia. She married 4, 5 Stephen GROVES in 1771 in Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania.

Some records show Isabella's maiden name spelled Weakly.

They had the following children:

  M i Samuel GROVES was born 1, 2 on 24 Aug 1776 in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. He died 3 on 2 Aug 1855.

Some records show Samuel Groves as the father of Robert Groves, not the brother, but this is doubtful based on birth dates of Roberts' ancestors.

Copy of a document found among the papers of the late Samuel Groves:

Samuel Groves, son of Stephen Groves, Grandson of William and Great Grandson of William Groves. And the late Stephen Groves' Mother's name was Rachel Herring. He was born in LankaShire in England. Visted Ireland and Scotland and sailed from Belfast to Philadelphia from whence he came to Cumberland County in the neighborhood of Carlisle where he married Isabella Weakley, the daugher of James Weakley. Her mother's name was Janet Wilson.

Soon after marriage he moved to Westmoreland County and settled 14 miles from Pittsburg and remained there till the summer of 1777 when the Indians became so troublesome that he removed back to the settlement and remained there until the fall of 1787. (H)e started to move to Georgia but when arriving near the Savannah found several families that had fled from the Indian troubles. (H)e stopped, made a crop and then came on to the vicinity of New Hope where he lived until his death.

Samuel Groves was born August 24th 1776 in Westmoreland County Pennsylvania removed with father to Georgia in 1788.

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Some records show Samuel Groves was born in Carlisle, Cumberland, Pennsylvania.

A will exists for Samuel Groves, filed in Madison County, Georgia.
  M ii Robert GROVES

William GROVES [Parents] was born 1, 2 about 1715 in Lancashire, England. He died . He married Rachel HERRING.

Rachel HERRING was born 1, 2 about 1719 in Lancashire, England. She died . She married William GROVES.

They had the following children:

  M i Stephen GROVES

William GROVES was born about 1690 in Lancashire, England. He died .

The Groves family motto from its coat of arms reads "Ny Dessux, ny dessoux". This can be translated "Neither high nor low" or "Be firm, be fair." This can be interpreted many ways and most family mottos are interpreted the way a particular branch would like it.

He had the following children:

  M i William GROVES

Joseph Lewis GROVES [Parents] was born 1, 2 on 1 Feb 1861 in Leonard, Fannin County, Texas. He died 3, 4 on 16 Mar 1937 in Leonard, Fannin County, Texas. He was buried 5 on 20 Mar 1937 in Leonard, Fannin County, Texas. He married Maggie BRAWLEY in 1887.

Other marriages:
BOYLE, Abbie May

Maggie BRAWLEY was born 1, 2 about 1865 in Leonard, Fannin County, Texas. She died 3 in 1905. She married Joseph Lewis GROVES in 1887.

They had the following children:

  M i Walter Lee GROVES was born 1 on 10 Jan 1889. He died 2 on 24 Sep 1918.

Walter died in World War I in the Argonne Battle in France. He never married.
  M ii Burl GROVES
  M iii Joseph Lewis GROVES Jr.
  M iv John Guy GROVES
  M v Samuel Ralph GROVES
  F vi Verma Ellen GROVES was born 1 on 16 Oct 1901. She died 2 in 1944.

Verma never married.
  M vii Sidney Jasper GROVES

Burl GROVES [Parents] was born 1 on 25 Dec 1889 in Sweetwater, Texas. He died 2 on 6 Apr 1942 in Lovington, New Mexico. He was buried on 7 Apr 1942 in Lovington, New Mexico. He married 3 Gussie Agnes BAKER on 1 Jul 1923 in Midway, New Mexico.

Some records show Burl Groves was born in Hermalee, Texas.

Gussie Agnes BAKER was born 1 on 16 Mar 1891 in Eastland County, Texas. She died 2 on 27 Sep 1983 in Lovington, New Mexico. She married 3 Burl GROVES on 1 Jul 1923 in Midway, New Mexico.

They had the following children:

  M i Daniel C. GROVES
  F ii Patsy Ann GROVES

Joseph Lewis GROVES Jr. [Parents] was born 1 on 20 May 1893. He died 2, 3 in Jul 1976 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma. He married 4 Rena GROVES.

Rena GROVES died . She married 1 Joseph Lewis GROVES Jr..

Rena Groves' maiden name is not known.

They had the following children:

  F i Marie GROVES
  M ii Randy GROVES

Charles DENNY died 1 in Jul 1976. He married 2 Marie GROVES.

Marie GROVES [Parents]


John Guy GROVES [Parents] was born 1 on 8 Jul 1896. He died 2, 3 in Feb 1972 in Corpus Christi, Nueces County, Texas. He married 4 Lola CALDWELL.

Some records show John Groves' month of deat as March.

Lola CALDWELL was born 1 on 21 Jul 1886. She died 2 on 15 Feb 1968 in Rising Star, Eastland County, Texas. She married 3 John Guy GROVES.

They had the following children:

  F i Myrl GROVES died 1 in Jun 1988.
  M ii Guy GROVES Jr.
  F iii Peggy GROVES

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